From bryant at wellswooster.com Wed Feb 10 21:57:07 2010 From: bryant at wellswooster.com (Don Bryant) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:57:07 -0500 Subject: [WritersGroup] Our first email Message-ID: <008e01caaac5$e953e870$bbfbb950$@com> Let's see how this works. Graham, Bobbi and I are currently the only people subscribed to this list. Here is the list of addresses Bobbi gave me a while ago that she thought should be subscribed. I can show you how to actually do that later. Janet Jensen janetj6690 at aol.com Shirley DeBoer geniemay at iserv.net Sister Michael Ellen Carling mecarling at grdominicans.org Shantell Ford ksford3 at hotmail.com Gail M Snow gmsnow-22 at runbox.com Yentsch Sharon syentsch at sbcglobal.net Sue Osgood srozgood at comcast.net In the meantime, I'll forward another email to this list address meant for just us three for now. Go ahead and reply to the list, send a new email to the list and generally get a feel for how it works. Address your Email to writersgroup at wmgs.org Don Bryant, President Western Michigan Genealogical Society Dedicated to Gaining Knowledge, Preserving Records and Teaching Others about Genealogy and Family History www.commoncorners.com & www.wmgs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.hostedbyisg.com/pipermail/writersgroup/attachments/20100210/109b6ea1/attachment.html From bryant at wellswooster.com Wed Feb 10 22:18:56 2010 From: bryant at wellswooster.com (Don Bryant) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:18:56 -0500 Subject: [WritersGroup] Type Justification Message-ID: <00aa01caaac8$f557e600$e007b200$@com> I picked up this short article today. Thought I'd share it with you. by Michael J. Leclerc Word processors today generally handle four types of type justification: left, right, center, and full. Left justification is the standard default setting for computers set to type in languages such as English that read from left to right. This leaves a jagged edge on the right margin. Right justification does just the opposite, with a flush-right side and a jagged edge on the left margin. Centered justification centers each line of text separately along the center axis, leaving jagged margins on both left and right sides. Full justification inserts empty space in each line to have flush lines on both the left and right margins. When writing your genealogy, make sure you use the appropriate justification format. Right-justified text is almost never used, except on title pages or in small blocks to emphasize the contrast with small blocks of left-justified text on the same page. Center-justified text should be used sparingly, as long blocks of it can be cumbersome to read. Too much of either of these styles are a sure sign of amateur work. Left-justified text is easy to read, but beware the right margin. As a rule, the text along the right margin should fall in gentle concave curves from top to bottom. A greatly ragged edge that moves back and forth over and over again will make it more difficult to read the text. Full justification is very important for text that appears in multiple columns on a page, as it does in newspapers and magazines. One must be careful, however, in using full justification. Word processors will automatically fully justify text by automatically hyphenating words according to standard rules, and adding additional space between words. This can result, however, in "rivers" of white space appearing in text blocks. You can adjust this by careful editing of wording to eliminate the extra space. Hyphenation problems will occur because not all words should be hyphenated according to standard rules. A classic example of a major problem in this area would be the word "therapist" which, if hyphenated according to standard rules, would read "the- rapist." Surely this is not the message you want to leave your reader with concerning a relative's occupation! These rules only apply to print text. One must be careful of justification in electronic publication. For example, website text can reflow when people resize their windows. This will change your justification. You can force justification into online text, but that means that readers will have to use the bottom scroll bar to go back and forth on the page to read the text. No matter which format you use, make certain to proofread your text after you have applied the justification. You will save yourself endless headaches (and potential embarrassment) in the long run. Don Bryant, President Western Michigan Genealogical Society Dedicated to Gaining Knowledge, Preserving Records and Teaching Others about Genealogy and Family History www.commoncorners.com & www.wmgs.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.hostedbyisg.com/pipermail/writersgroup/attachments/20100210/d3e17677/attachment.html From hollishistory at yahoo.com Thu Feb 11 08:20:08 2010 From: hollishistory at yahoo.com (Graham Hollis) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:20:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [WritersGroup] Type Justification In-Reply-To: <00aa01caaac8$f557e600$e007b200$@com> Message-ID: <829587.93087.qm@web50706.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Don, You have no idea how pleased I am with your quick and (apparently) complete response to my original request. With my wife being sick as a dog, these last few days have been greatly broken up with visits to doctors, chasing medications, and generally holding hands. Today should be more open.? And being open I plan on printing out and studying all your emails. My quick review just now leads me to believe that by day's end I should be an expert. If not please expect a flurry of additional questions. I want to master this! Graham --- On Wed, 2/10/10, Don Bryant wrote: From: Don Bryant Subject: [WritersGroup] Type Justification To: writersgroup at wmgs.org Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 10:18 PM I picked up this short article today. Thought I?d share it with you. by Michael J. Leclerc Word processors today generally handle four types of type justification: left, right, center, and full. Left justification is the standard default setting for computers set to type in languages such as English that read from left to right. This leaves a jagged edge on the right margin. Right justification does just the opposite, with a flush-right side and a jagged edge on the left margin. Centered justification centers each line of text separately along the center axis, leaving jagged margins on both left and right sides. Full justification inserts empty space in each line to have flush lines on both the left and right margins. When writing your genealogy, make sure you use the appropriate justification format. Right-justified text is almost never used, except on title pages or in small blocks to emphasize the contrast with small blocks of left-justified text on the same page. Center-justified text should be used sparingly, as long blocks of it can be cumbersome to read. Too much of either of these styles are a sure sign of amateur work. Left-justified text is easy to read, but beware the right margin. As a rule, the text along the right margin should fall in gentle concave curves from top to bottom. A greatly ragged edge that moves back and forth over and over again will make it more difficult to read the text. Full justification is very important for text that appears in multiple columns on a page, as it does in newspapers and magazines. One must be careful, however, in using full justification. Word processors will automatically fully justify text by automatically hyphenating words according to standard rules, and adding additional space between words. This can result, however, in ?rivers? of white space appearing in text blocks. You can adjust this by careful editing of wording to eliminate the extra space. Hyphenation problems will occur because not all words should be hyphenated according to standard rules. A classic example of a major problem in this area would be the word ?therapist? which, if hyphenated according to standard rules, would read ?the- rapist.? Surely this is not the message you want to leave your reader with concerning a relative?s occupation! These rules only apply to print text. One must be careful of justification in electronic publication. For example, website text can reflow when people resize their windows. This will change your justification. You can force justification into online text, but that means that readers will have to use the bottom scroll bar to go back and forth on the page to read the text. No matter which format you use, make certain to proofread your text after you have applied the justification. You will save yourself endless headaches (and potential embarrassment) in the long run. ? ? Don Bryant, President ? Western Michigan Genealogical Society Dedicated to Gaining Knowledge, Preserving Records and Teaching Others about Genealogy and Family History www.commoncorners.com & www.wmgs.org ? -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ WritersGroup mailing list WritersGroup at wmgs.org http://lists.hostedbyisg.com/mailman/listinfo/writersgroup -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.hostedbyisg.com/pipermail/writersgroup/attachments/20100211/957337bb/attachment-0001.html From hollishistory at yahoo.com Thu Feb 11 15:50:37 2010 From: hollishistory at yahoo.com (Graham Hollis) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:50:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [WritersGroup] what I have done to date Message-ID: <579062.41048.qm@web50706.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Don, Or should I say "Master?" So far I have printed out copies of each relevant email. Punched three holes in each, bound them in a 3-ring notebook--and read all--twice! Starting with your first email I am now attempting to send an email to the group list. Graham -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.hostedbyisg.com/pipermail/writersgroup/attachments/20100211/3494cbcf/attachment.html From hollishistory at yahoo.com Thu Feb 11 16:20:46 2010 From: hollishistory at yahoo.com (Graham Hollis) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:20:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [WritersGroup] Master. I'm lost in the wilderness. Message-ID: <115496.26678.qm@web50702.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Don, I have been playing with the various web address on your emails and can't seem to find what I will call our home page. I can easily find a page for signing up to be a member.? But that is it. >From what I have seen passwords don't seem important.? Unless you have already registered them for me. Graham -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.hostedbyisg.com/pipermail/writersgroup/attachments/20100211/04799881/attachment.html From bryant at wellswooster.com Thu Feb 11 17:22:37 2010 From: bryant at wellswooster.com (Don Bryant) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:22:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: [WritersGroup] Master. I'm lost in the wilderness. In-Reply-To: <115496.26678.qm@web50702.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <115496.26678.qm@web50702.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <34204.63.161.207.29.1265926957.squirrel@webmail.goisg.net> Graham, I'll be able to go through this with you while on the phone sometime (after Saturday). There is just the one password that is needed in order to get in the administration area. Do you have more than the hollishistory at yahoo.com email address? Perhaps a gmail.com address? If so, try subscribing to the list from the "signing up to be a member" page you found. That should generate an email to your email address that will say something to the effect of "so 'n' so wants to subscribe" and you need to approve it. Log in here ... (with a linked URL). Don > Don, > I have been playing with the various web address on your emails and can't > seem to find what I will call our home page. > I can easily find a page for signing up to be a member.? But that is it. > >>From what I have seen passwords don't seem important.? Unless you have >> already registered them for me. > > Graham > > > > _______________________________________________ > WritersGroup mailing list > WritersGroup at wmgs.org > http://lists.hostedbyisg.com/mailman/listinfo/writersgroup > From hollishistory at yahoo.com Fri Feb 12 19:15:05 2010 From: hollishistory at yahoo.com (Graham Hollis) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:15:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [WritersGroup] Master. I'm lost in the wilderness. In-Reply-To: <34204.63.161.207.29.1265926957.squirrel@webmail.goisg.net> Message-ID: <113161.9674.qm@web50705.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Don, As things now stand Sunday seems like a good time.? Afternoon? We will be leaving for a warmer place on Mon (for 10 days) Graham If you can send me your phone # I can call you at no additional cost. My # is 269-349-6364 --- On Thu, 2/11/10, Don Bryant wrote: From: Don Bryant Subject: Re: [WritersGroup] Master. I'm lost in the wilderness. To: "WMGSWriters" Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 5:22 PM Graham, I'll be able to go through this with you while on the phone sometime (after Saturday). There is just the one password that is needed in order to get in the administration area. Do you have more than the hollishistory at yahoo.com email address? Perhaps a gmail.com address? If so, try subscribing to the list from the "signing up to be a member" page you found. That should generate an email to your email address that will say something to the effect of "so 'n' so wants to subscribe" and you need to approve it. Log in here ... (with a linked URL). Don > Don, > I have been playing with the various web address on your emails and can't > seem to find what I will call our home page. > I can easily find a page for signing up to be a member.? But that is it. > >>From what I have seen passwords don't seem important.? Unless you have >> already registered them for me. > > Graham > > > >? ? ???_______________________________________________ > WritersGroup mailing list > WritersGroup at wmgs.org > http://lists.hostedbyisg.com/mailman/listinfo/writersgroup > _______________________________________________ WritersGroup mailing list WritersGroup at wmgs.org http://lists.hostedbyisg.com/mailman/listinfo/writersgroup -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.hostedbyisg.com/pipermail/writersgroup/attachments/20100212/c4d77a92/attachment.html From proclus at gnu-darwin.org Sun Feb 28 23:15:48 2010 From: proclus at gnu-darwin.org (proclus at gnu-darwin.org) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:15:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [WritersGroup] radical mormons Message-ID: <20100301041548.EA30DD5C0BF@gnu-darwin.org> Those of you who have been following mormonism on the web for many years will probably recognize The Radical Mormon publication. This was likely the first attempt to make a web portal for latter-day saint people, and this pioneering effort helped to inspire many other sites to do likewise. Radical set itself apart as a place where devout and sincere LDS and mormons could intelligently discuss controversial doctrines in a positive light, at a time when the anti-mormon forces were very powerful on the web. The publication has been active off and on ever since that time. If you are not familiar with it, you might want to have a look at it. This site broke new ground at the time that it was started in 1999. http://proclus.tripod.com/radical/ For those who are already familiar with The Radical Mormon, you might be interested to know that the editors and contributors have recently started work on some historical information regarding the publication, which provides many links to related websites. You can have an advance look, and see as it evolves. http://proclus.tripod.com/radical/editor.html Some of you may even like to contribute something; help us fix broken links, contribute a news item, editorial, or personal story. If you were a part of the activity that spawned The Radical Mormon, you might like to submit your link for inclusion on our contributors page. Regards, proclus http://www.gnu-darwin.org/