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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Betty,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Thanks for taking the time to research the RIHS
records. Mrs. Haviland also wrote on Medfield and Uxbridge History.
Uxbridge is important if you are looking for a Quaker connection - which I
suspect from one of my ancestors who moved to Smithfield, RI - a Quaker hotbed
that met in Uxbridge for meetings. Medfield is where our ancestors escaped
to when the Indians turned their anger on Mendon during the King Philip
War.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Along with the date of birth, the association with the
Whites in Weymouth and Mendon, and William Crowne offer additional clues.
Crowne was also associated with Thomas Howard, the Earl of
Arundel</FONT> <FONT face=Arial>as was David Thomson (remember his 3-page
letter in 1625 to the Earl.) Also, Samuel Maverick also held land in
Weymouth. It was where the Gorges associated folks lived while the
Pilgrims and Puritans spread their wings throughout the
Commonwealth.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Refer back to the Massachusetts grant naming David as the
governor under the Council for New England. He is referred to Mr. David
Thompson, Gent. To use Mr. and Gent. in the same title is
redundant. It is believed by at least one major historian, David Howarth,
author of Arundel and His Circle, that David was a ship's Master. I have
also found a Mr. Thompson, Master of the ship Jonathan in early Virginia Records
- about 1619. Recall the letter - he mentions his impression of folks
in the South - not flattering.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>John was referred to as Mr. John Thompson when he was a
ship's master, but we all know he lost everything. Goodman means
landowner. A person can be more than one thing in one's lifetime.
Frankly, I find Richardson's analysis to be idiotic. Because he is
referred to as Goodman in Mendon he cannot be the same person as Mr. John
Thomson - a title he held when he was a ship's master!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Best Wishes,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Genevieve</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>PS The Mendon Families by Havilard is also on
microfilm available from Mormon Research Centers. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<A title=morrisb@libcoop.net href="mailto:morrisb@libcoop.net">morrisb</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=tommies@wellswooster.com
href="mailto:tommies@wellswooster.com">'Discussion list for David THOMSON
& Amias COLE descendantsandresearchers.'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 03, 2009 3:00
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tommies] John Thompson, son
of David</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=280112819-03022009><FONT
face=Arial><STRONG>Genevieve,</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=280112819-03022009><FONT face=Arial><STRONG> Yes, I
believe it is probably the book you describe. Early last month Ms. Lee
Teverow, Reference Librarian at the RIHS, answered my inquiry about a
hand-written book of records or recollections about early Mendon. She
wrote: </STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=280112819-03022009><FONT face=Arial><STRONG>
</STRONG></FONT><FONT face=Arial><STRONG><SPAN
class=280112819-03022009>"</SPAN>Thank you for your inquiry regarding the book
about Mendon, MA. There are two items listed in our catalog that might be what
you're looking for. The first is "Mendon families," by Elizabeth Seamans
Haviland (RR F 74 .M59 H28) and it comprises 5 volumes of handwritten
genealogical materials arranged alphabetically by name of family. The second
is "The proprietors records of the town of Mendon, MA, incorporated May 15,
1667," transcribed from manuscript records (RR F 74 M59 M54.)<SPAN
class=280112819-03022009>"</SPAN></STRONG></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=280112819-03022009><STRONG> I asked
Christine Lamar, a researcher on the list that Ms. Teverow sent to me, to look
at these two books with our problem of identifying John Thompson of Mendon
with John Thompson, son of David and heir to Thompson's Island in mind.
She reported as follows:</STRONG></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><SPAN class=280112819-03022009><FONT
face=Arial><STRONG></STRONG></FONT>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=280112819-03022009>"T</SPAN>he
two books you suggested I evaluate are as described. I was not allowed
to make copies from either:<BR><BR>1. The Proprietors Records of Mendon,
Massachusetts, incorporated May 15, 1667. Boston, Rockwell &
Churchill Press, 1899. It is a printed transcript produced by members of
committees from six Massachusetts towns. It is land records which do not
appear to add anything definitive to your David/John Thompson
question.<BR><BR>2. Mendon Families by Mrs. Frank Haviland. n.d. (ca.
1901-1929) unpub., unpaged, bound mss in 5 v. The volume I looked at was
V. 5 TH-Z. <BR>Contained the following:<BR><BR>David and Amyes
(sic)<BR>son John Thomson 1619- 9 Nov 1685, m. Sarah<BR>son John b.
1642- 1715 m. Thankful Woodland<BR>dau Mehitable (no birth date given)
m. Samuel Hayward 9 June 1670<BR>dau Sarah b. 2 July 1644 m. John
Aldrich 1678 son of George and Catherine<BR><BR>A list of John's- b.
1642- children was also given as follows.<BR>John 1667-1749 one of the
early settlers of Bellingham<BR>Sarah 12 May 1669<BR>Ebenezer 1 Oct
1677<BR>Samuel 4 Feb 1679-1704<BR>Woodland 27 Jan 1681<BR>Benjamin 17
Sept 1681<BR>David 24 May 1687<BR>Hannah 3 Aug 1689<BR><BR><U>There was
no indication of sources or mention of Thompson's
Island."</U></FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=280112819-03022009></SPAN><FONT
face=Arial><STRONG> <SPAN class=280112819-03022009> Ms. Lamar
looked at other sources at RIHS but found nothing that suggested that
John Thompson of Thompson's Island was the same as John Thompson of
Mendon. Except for the fact that they were born in the same year
and that John Jr. of Mendon named a son David, either man's timeline
stands independent of the other's. There is nothing that
contradicts their being the same man (except Douglas Richardson's
article) but nothing connects them, either. I hate to continue
claiming David as an ancestor when respected genealogists seem to doubt
it. Let's hope we can find the "smoking
gun"!</SPAN></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><STRONG><SPAN class=280112819-03022009>
Betty
Lou.</SPAN><BR></STRONG></DIV></FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></SPAN></FONT></DIV></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><STRONG>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
tommies-bounces@wellswooster.com [mailto:tommies-bounces@wellswooster.com]On
Behalf Of gcfraser@peoplepc.com<BR>Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:16
PM<BR>To: Discussion list for David THOMSON & Amias COLE
descendantsandresearchers.<BR>Subject: Re: [Tommies] John Thompson, son of
David<BR><BR></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><STRONG>Betty,</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><STRONG>Is the Mendon Families a cloth bound,
hand-sewn document which mentions Amias and David at the top of the Thompson
section?</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><STRONG>Genevieve</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>From: </STRONG><A title=morrisb@libcoop.net
href="mailto:morrisb@libcoop.net"><STRONG>morrisb</STRONG></A><STRONG>
</STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><STRONG>To: </STRONG><A
title=tommies@wellswooster.com
href="mailto:tommies@wellswooster.com"><STRONG>'Discussion list for David
THOMSON & Amias COLE descendantsandresearchers.'</STRONG></A><STRONG>
</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><STRONG>Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:28
PM</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><STRONG>Subject: [Tommies] John Thompson,
son of David</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><BR></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250440620-02022009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff><STRONG>To Gen Fraser and all Tommies: Trying to find
evidence that John Thompson son of David and John Thompson of Weymouth and
Mendon are one and the same person, I followed your clue that there was a
hand-written item at the Rhode Island Historical Society library with this
information. I contacted the reference librarian there and was told
they had two items that were hand-written and concerned Mendon. I
hired a researcher from the library's list to look at these two
items. </STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250440620-02022009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff><STRONG> One was <EM>The Proprietors' Records of
Mendon, </EM>mostly land records, and does not "appear to add anything
definitive to our David/John Thompson
question."</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250440620-02022009><FONT face=Arial><STRONG> The
second is <EM>Mendon Families </EM>by Mrs. Frank Haviland, n.d..(about
1901-1929) and repeats the lineage of David to John and through the Mendon
Thompsons -- as we have long accepted it to be --but includes no
sources.</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250440620-02022009><FONT face=Arial><STRONG> I
continue to hope we will find proof someday that our John Thompson, of
Weymouth and Mendon was the same person as John Thompson, son of
David. The two men were born in the same year and tradition says
they were the same man but we need more than this to convince other
genealogists.</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250440620-02022009><FONT face=Arial><STRONG> Betty
Lou </STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><STRONG>-----Original Message-----<SPAN
class=250440620-02022009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>[Betty Lou
Morris] , </FONT></SPAN><BR>From:
tommies-bounces@wellswooster.com
[mailto:tommies-bounces@wellswooster.com]On Behalf Of morrisb<BR>Sent:
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 3:41 PM<BR>To: 'Discussion list for David
THOMSON & Amias COLE descendantsandresearchers.'<BR>Subject: Re:
[Tommies] Welcome Sharon Thompson from
Alberta<BR><BR></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=990371120-31122008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff><STRONG> Thanks, Gen, for your response about the
proof that John, son of David Thompson, was the same person as John
Thompson of Mendon. I wonder if any of the Tommies has in his/her
records the citations for the date, place and source for (1) the birth
of John, son of David and (2) John of Mendon? Does anyone
have a citation for the late 18th/early 19th
century hand-written book from Mendon at the Rhode Island
Historical Society that lists David as the father of John? I
looked at the RIHS online catalogue and did not find it there.
Does anyone on the Tommies list have access to that
library?</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=990371120-31122008><FONT face=Arial><STRONG>
Betty Lou</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><STRONG>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
tommies-bounces@wellswooster.com
[mailto:tommies-bounces@wellswooster.com]On Behalf Of
gcfraser@peoplepc.com<BR>Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:24
PM<BR>To: Discussion list for David THOMSON & Amias COLE
descendantsandresearchers.<BR>Subject: Re: [Tommies] Welcome Sharon
Thompson from Alberta<BR><BR></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><STRONG>Betty Lou,</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><STRONG>I don't have the facts at my fingertips,
but John of Mendon was the same age as John, David's son. There
are other reasons too including a late 18th century/early 19th century
handwritten book in the RI historical society from Mendon that lists
David as the father of John.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><STRONG>Genevieve</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><STRONG>From:
</STRONG><A title=quintinth@aol.com
href="mailto:quintinth@aol.com"><STRONG>Quintin
Thompson</STRONG></A><STRONG> </STRONG></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><STRONG>To: </STRONG><A
title=tommies@wellswooster.com
href="mailto:tommies@wellswooster.com"><STRONG>Discussion list for
David THOMSON & Amias COLE descendants
andresearchers.</STRONG></A><STRONG> </STRONG></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><STRONG>Sent: Friday, December 26,
2008 11:11 AM</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><STRONG>Subject: Re: [Tommies] Welcome
Sharon Thompson from Alberta</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><BR></STRONG></DIV><STRONG>Hi, Gen sometime ago
you gave remarks supporting this claim. I have a print out of
it. Maybe you can up date it and pass it on to Betty
Lou. Quint </STRONG>
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<DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>On Dec 16, 2008, at 4:41 PM, morrisb
wrote:</STRONG></DIV><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline>
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<DIV><SPAN class=550125622-15122008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff><STRONG> Let me add my greetings of welcome to
you, Sharon. We Tommies are a pretty scattered and diverse
group, but we all claim David Thompson as an ancestor.
My particular hang up is the question of proof that John Thompson
of Mendon, MA, from whom we all descend, is the same man as John
Thompson, son of David. If you have any information to help
with this, please let us know.</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=550125622-15122008><FONT
face=Arial><STRONG> Betty Lou
Morris</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=550125622-15122008><FONT
face=Arial><STRONG> Mount Clemens,
MI</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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face=Tahoma><STRONG>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
tommies-bounces@wellswooster.com [</STRONG><A
href="mailto:tommies-bounces@wellswooster.com"><STRONG>mailto:tommies-bounces@wellswooster.com</STRONG></A><STRONG>]On
Behalf Of Alyce Elliott<BR>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 8:36
PM<BR>To: </STRONG><A
href="mailto:dick@hodgman.org"><STRONG>dick@hodgman.org</STRONG></A><STRONG>;
Discussion list for David THOMSON & Amias COLE descendants
andresearchers.<BR>Subject: Re: [Tommies] Welcome Sharon
Thompson from Alberta<BR><BR></STRONG></FONT></DIV><STRONG>Hi
Sharon, thanks for joining us. I believe I know your Uncle
Frank, if it's the same Frank Thompson -- met him on this
list. You and I (and others on the list including Frank)
share an ancestor: C. B. Thompson, my great grandfather.
I'm eleventh generation wrt David Thomson, see my line
here:<BR></STRONG><A
href="http://www.wellswooster.com/tommies/alyce.htm"
eudora="autourl"><STRONG>http://www.wellswooster.com/tommies/alyce.htm</STRONG></A><BR><BR><STRONG>Do
we have the same line in common? At least up to
Charles? Welcome to the Tommies list and I look forward to
seeing further posts from you.<BR><BR>Alyce Thompson
Elliott<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>At 10:11 AM 12/14/2008, you
wrote:<BR></STRONG>
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type="cite"><STRONG>Tommies,<BR><BR>On Monday, 11/17/08,I
received the Fall 2008 newsletter from Thompson Island Outward
Bound. On the back page (attached to this message), I
found that Sharon Thompson of Alberta, Canada had visited
Thompson Island and wanted to reach out to other descendants
of David Thompson. I contacted her by email, gave her a
synopsis of our 2001 (Re)union, and pointed her to the Tommies
website. She has joined our email list.
<BR><BR>Please join me in welcoming Sharon to our group.
<BR><BR>--Dick<BR>============================<BR>Dick
Hodgman<BR></STRONG><A
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